| Which side do YOU view as right? | |
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+9coby The Opposition General Stuart Adrocles debski Civility_C Iron Brigade General ttbk DCCCfC aka General Lee 13 posters |
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Which side do you support? | The Confederacy | | 63% | [ 10 ] | The Union | | 37% | [ 6 ] |
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Iron Brigade General President
Number of posts : 1811 Age : 35 Localisation : Playing robber with the nerdy cops Registration date : 2006-10-03
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:52 am | |
| Mainly the North had abolsihed it, except for the Border States by that time. I believe it wasn't until 1850 that the Slave trade was done away with in Washington D.C. | |
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General Stuart Iron Brigade
Number of posts : 1465 Age : 34 Localisation : central California Registration date : 2006-10-23
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:40 pm | |
| Actually, the Constitutional Convention of 1787 passed a bill saying that in 20 years hence, the slave trade would become illegal in the U.S. So, in 1807, congress passed the law into the books. Alot of people don't know this (don't feel bad, I've done like loads of research:D), and assume that the slave trade was legal up untill the civil war. The one catch in the bill, though, was that the practice of selling and buying slaves was not affected or altered in any way. Therefore, all that remained was getting the slaves into the country, i.e., smuggling them in. What made congress ignore the issue for so long? Why did they consistently look the other way for so long? They say that money makes the earth go 'round, and this proves it: Washington ignored the issue not only because of the already known agricultural need in the south for cheap labor, but also because of the economical need in the north for commercial revenue. If you don't see what I'm driving at, maybe you haven't heard this little known statistic: that 99% of all slaves were brought (smuggled), and sold into the country by Northern shipping companies. Now everything makes sense, doesn't it? Northern politicians, the ones in the best position to put a halt to this smuggling gambit, ignored it because they didn't want to go up against the Big Industry of the north. And they probably didn't want to go up against their most likely financial backers come election time, either. | |
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Civility_C General-in-Chief
Number of posts : 1300 Age : 32 Registration date : 2006-10-05
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:51 am | |
| yep. You've got a great point. | |
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General Stuart Iron Brigade
Number of posts : 1465 Age : 34 Localisation : central California Registration date : 2006-10-23
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:12 pm | |
| Glad you think so. And nice addition to your sig. | |
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Civility_C General-in-Chief
Number of posts : 1300 Age : 32 Registration date : 2006-10-05
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:19 pm | |
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General Stuart Iron Brigade
Number of posts : 1465 Age : 34 Localisation : central California Registration date : 2006-10-23
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:44 pm | |
| What happened to all the yankees? Come on guys, I like a good debate. | |
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Civility_C General-in-Chief
Number of posts : 1300 Age : 32 Registration date : 2006-10-05
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:45 pm | |
| They're scared | |
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General Stuart Iron Brigade
Number of posts : 1465 Age : 34 Localisation : central California Registration date : 2006-10-23
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:51 pm | |
| It must have been my long posts | |
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The Opposition Army Commander
Number of posts : 1917 Age : 109 Localisation : ............. Registration date : 2006-10-26
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:53 pm | |
| Afraid? Sorry Stuart, fear isnt in my blood. As YOU know i'm not even a true Yank. Unless what makes you a yank ISNT in your blood but in your point of view. ANYWAYS POST BACK! | |
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The Opposition Army Commander
Number of posts : 1917 Age : 109 Localisation : ............. Registration date : 2006-10-26
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:54 pm | |
| That goes for you too civ! | |
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Iron Brigade General President
Number of posts : 1811 Age : 35 Localisation : Playing robber with the nerdy cops Registration date : 2006-10-03
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:10 am | |
| Well, let a western man take up the fight. I say, no side was right and no side was wrong! Not a very good argument, but, should ralley things up. | |
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Civility_C General-in-Chief
Number of posts : 1300 Age : 32 Registration date : 2006-10-05
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:27 am | |
| Well I haven't had a Yankee in my Family since 1756.... Oh and by the way Oppie, I was joking. You need to lighten up. | |
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coby Iron Brigade
Number of posts : 1542 Age : 34 Localisation : Nebraska Registration date : 2006-10-18
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:13 pm | |
| in my point of view I think both sides had faults in the war. | |
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Iron Brigade General President
Number of posts : 1811 Age : 35 Localisation : Playing robber with the nerdy cops Registration date : 2006-10-03
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:14 pm | |
| You just said that because I did. | |
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coby Iron Brigade
Number of posts : 1542 Age : 34 Localisation : Nebraska Registration date : 2006-10-18
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:16 pm | |
| No I didin't thats what I think, I would of still put that if you didin't say anything at all. | |
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General_LeGraSherman Cavalry Trooper
Number of posts : 257 Age : 35 Registration date : 2006-10-20
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:38 pm | |
| neither side was justified in doing things that were done during the war, BUT the South was fully justified to seceed from the union, in accordance with the very princibles that this country was founded on. (by the way, I didn't even really read the prvious posts, so I am sorry if it seems that there was some copycatting going on) | |
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Iron Brigade General President
Number of posts : 1811 Age : 35 Localisation : Playing robber with the nerdy cops Registration date : 2006-10-03
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:58 pm | |
| But, it wasn't constitutional. Nothing to stop it, but nothing to validate it. | |
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General Stuart Iron Brigade
Number of posts : 1465 Age : 34 Localisation : central California Registration date : 2006-10-23
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:05 pm | |
| The rights of the American people are not limited to what is writtin in the constitution. The same goes for the rights of the individual states. The fact of the matter is that the only purpose of the U.S. Constitution is to set clear bounderies on the FEDERAL government, limiting its powers. The only powers it maintains are those granted to it by the states themselves. And "Oppie", go eat some pie you yank. lol. | |
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coby Iron Brigade
Number of posts : 1542 Age : 34 Localisation : Nebraska Registration date : 2006-10-18
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:58 am | |
| But people in the government now are trying to get more power than they should have. | |
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Iron Brigade General President
Number of posts : 1811 Age : 35 Localisation : Playing robber with the nerdy cops Registration date : 2006-10-03
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:01 am | |
| The original idea was little goverment involvment. But, seeing how things went with the Whiskey Rebillion and such, They found it nessecary to increase power. Which is kind of a good thing. Keeps small companies and even bigger ones from really jacking thier prices. | |
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coby Iron Brigade
Number of posts : 1542 Age : 34 Localisation : Nebraska Registration date : 2006-10-18
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:09 am | |
| Thats true. but the people in the govrnment today are geting more power than they need. | |
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Iron Brigade General President
Number of posts : 1811 Age : 35 Localisation : Playing robber with the nerdy cops Registration date : 2006-10-03
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:48 am | |
| Destroying our rights as they go. | |
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coby Iron Brigade
Number of posts : 1542 Age : 34 Localisation : Nebraska Registration date : 2006-10-18
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:49 am | |
| that is sooo true, they need to stop trying to get more power and start doing what they are supposed to do. | |
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Adrocles Cavalry Trooper
Number of posts : 432 Age : 34 Localisation : Quebec City (QC) Canada Registration date : 2006-10-13
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:13 pm | |
| I agree with you guys, but I'm not gonna debate over stuff that I don't entirely know for sure. All I wanna say is with power comes responsability and when you get too much...It's really no good. | |
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Iron Brigade General President
Number of posts : 1811 Age : 35 Localisation : Playing robber with the nerdy cops Registration date : 2006-10-03
| Subject: Re: Which side do YOU view as right? Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:56 pm | |
| Prepare to be bored out of your mind. | |
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