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PostSubject: Re: Sherman a Hero or a Terorist general?   Sherman a Hero or a Terorist general? - Page 13 EmptyFri Dec 08, 2006 3:52 pm

Gen. Lee, you're right, so far as that many books are simply "biased by omision." This is a very effective tool in historical and political works. All I ever said about the transcript in question though, was that it is my opinion that this single transcript is not biased on its face. I sited that it is not a narrative, which can be easily construed, but a compilation of quotes and first hand accounts given by eyewitnesses and many key figures involved. The author also sites each source, thereby giving it substantial credibility. Thus, no matter how biased the author of this transcript was, the worst he could do would be to have only one side's telling of the story. However, as I stated before, the transcript includes both sides' takes on the event. This is what I meant when I said that it is possible for such a transcript to be unbiased, at least in those respects.
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PostSubject: Re: Sherman a Hero or a Terorist general?   Sherman a Hero or a Terorist general? - Page 13 EmptyWed Dec 13, 2006 2:00 pm

anyways....................................I think we argue to much. We need to have more discussion. anyways about Sherman, did you know he was mistaken for Grant a couple times?afro
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I never knew that.study
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PostSubject: Re: Sherman a Hero or a Terorist general?   Sherman a Hero or a Terorist general? - Page 13 EmptyWed Dec 13, 2006 2:32 pm

Dont take me to seriously I was talking about in a history book.Laughing lol
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PostSubject: Re: Sherman a Hero or a Terorist general?   Sherman a Hero or a Terorist general? - Page 13 EmptyThu Dec 14, 2006 8:25 am

Did you know that a Colonel from Ohio was mistaken as the real Sherman? He was Colonel Sherman, and he was captured, in the same place that half an hour before, the real Sherman was. He had fun making the rebs believe he was the real Sherman. Then, when he was taken to the officers of that rebel outfit, one of the officers knew the real Sherman, and, they finnally got it all figured out.
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PostSubject: Re: Sherman a Hero or a Terorist general?   Sherman a Hero or a Terorist general? - Page 13 EmptyFri Dec 15, 2006 9:01 pm

Let's get back on topic; is Sherman a hero or a terrorist general?
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Terrorist General. Very Happy
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I agree with the intelligent man named Lee. Very Happy
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Thanks Smile
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I guess you could consider him a hero, for the norths cause perhaps. But he didnt exactly have that certain quality yah know? Wink afro
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I guess you have the right to idolize him... Just like the Nazis have a right to idolize Hitler. Very Happy lol (jk)

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I guess you have the right to idolize him... Just like the Nazis have a right to idolize Hitler. Very Happy lol (jk)

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You know what i meant Lee, I dont idolize people that appear to be so ..........so.........like him. lol. afro I dont idolize people at all. Very Happy
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Good for you..... (But if you dont idolize him why cant you accept that he was bad... whether or not he eventually won Very Happy )

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afro Ofcourse he was bad, there's no question about it. But he isnt guilty of everything he was accused of. That is ALL I am saying Lee.
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GREAT! WE HAVE MADE A CONVERT JEB! (though a very reluctant one... lol)
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A convert, ha, I simply dont like Sherman. afro
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Wow, he really does see the light now! We did it Lee! cheers cheers cheers

Welcome to the world of truth, Oppie. Very Happy


Of course, now that we have established the fact that Sherman breached the code of conduct and committed astounding war crimes, we can see that his real aims of the march were not bringing an end to hostilities, but "punishing" the South, his style.
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Wow, he really does see the light now! We did it Lee! cheers cheers cheers

Welcome to the world of truth, Oppie. Very Happy


Of course, now that we have established the fact that Sherman breached the code of conduct and committed astounding war crimes, we can see that his real aims of the march were not bringing an end to hostilities, but "punishing" the South, his style.
Perhaps, but since he was deemed insane by his doctors it's reasonable to believe that he may have had other intentions(even though the means were wrong) for the war. afro

Just a thought.Sleep
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Having spent a lot of time in an asylum myself, Sherman shouldn't even have been a general, let alone a commanding officer when the entire country is in chaos.

You wouldn't believe what it's like in those places, in some cases they always got a bunch of guys who can take completely suicidal decisions, and if Sherman was that type, not only he could have get himself KIA very easily, but his entire units might not even have survived the first battles they would get themselves into.

Because of Paranoia cases (I don't know if Sherman was that type) any commanding officer who is that case might even have ordered his own men shot just because that commanding officer wouldn't trust them due to paranoid instincts.

Which is a good reason to be really afraid when you have such man in charge.
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The only reason he was in the nut house was Sherman said, "It's going to be a long war."
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It wasn't that simple IBG lol. Laughing
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It wasn't that simple IBG lol. Laughing
Not, it wasnt.

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PostSubject: Re: Sherman a Hero or a Terorist general?   Sherman a Hero or a Terorist general? - Page 13 EmptyThu Jan 04, 2007 2:35 pm

I think his statements alone show he was probably sufferring from a nervous disorder.
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PostSubject: Re: Sherman a Hero or a Terorist general?   Sherman a Hero or a Terorist general? - Page 13 EmptyThu Jan 04, 2007 2:53 pm

Yeah. He passed up a general promotion when the war started, although he was quiet capable.
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