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DCCCfC aka General Lee Cavalry Trooper
Number of posts : 356 Age : 97 Localisation : The Island of Christian Theocracy Registration date : 2006-10-10
| Subject: Fort Pillow Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:46 am | |
| Whos read about Fort Pillow? | |
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DrumSgt61 Drummer Boy
Number of posts : 4 Age : 35 Localisation : Rochester,NY Registration date : 2006-10-12
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:00 pm | |
| Nathan Bedford Forrest pushing back the yankees April 12, 1864, it's funny union maj. bradford wanted an hour to surrender but forrest only gave him 20 minnutes lol. only 80 confederate casulities compared to about 570 union casulties, most were colored troops...this fight sparked alot of controversy. Sgt. Kevin Whiting Drum Sgt. for the Excelsior Brigade Fife and Drum Corps. www.myspace.com/excelsiorbrigade | |
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DCCCfC aka General Lee Cavalry Trooper
Number of posts : 356 Age : 97 Localisation : The Island of Christian Theocracy Registration date : 2006-10-10
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:34 pm | |
| Would you view the cause of this "massacre" (if it was a massacre) General Forrest? | |
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Iron Brigade General President
Number of posts : 1811 Age : 35 Localisation : Playing robber with the nerdy cops Registration date : 2006-10-03
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:29 am | |
| I don't think he ordered it. But, then again, he didn't try to stop it either. | |
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DCCCfC aka General Lee Cavalry Trooper
Number of posts : 356 Age : 97 Localisation : The Island of Christian Theocracy Registration date : 2006-10-10
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:40 pm | |
| No I dont think he did try to stop it... and if he didnt, it was definely wrong of him!
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Iron Brigade General President
Number of posts : 1811 Age : 35 Localisation : Playing robber with the nerdy cops Registration date : 2006-10-03
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:58 pm | |
| What? You don't agree with no quarters to the misguided yankees?? | |
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General Stuart Iron Brigade
Number of posts : 1465 Age : 34 Localisation : central California Registration date : 2006-10-23
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:52 pm | |
| Under the circumstances, I think it would have become very easy for the confederates to get carried away, especially if the yankees didn't imediately choose to surrender. As to Forrest stopping the carnage, that's just not the kind of man he was. | |
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Iron Brigade General President
Number of posts : 1811 Age : 35 Localisation : Playing robber with the nerdy cops Registration date : 2006-10-03
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:08 am | |
| Espically since some of the defenders were blacks. They hated blacks and gave no quarters to them. Just think of the Crater and you got their whole attitude to Black troops. | |
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General Stuart Iron Brigade
Number of posts : 1465 Age : 34 Localisation : central California Registration date : 2006-10-23
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:52 pm | |
| I don't think the Crater was a clear demonstration of the south's hate of blacks. It's just hard to miss at point-blank range. | |
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Iron Brigade General President
Number of posts : 1811 Age : 35 Localisation : Playing robber with the nerdy cops Registration date : 2006-10-03
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:07 pm | |
| "Take the white! Kill the N-----r!" Famous battle cry of the Battle of the Crater. They took prisoners up until Ferros (can't remember how it's spelled at the moment) black troops got into the fight then gave no quarters. | |
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General Stuart Iron Brigade
Number of posts : 1465 Age : 34 Localisation : central California Registration date : 2006-10-23
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:30 pm | |
| Hey, I did some reading to jog my memory last night, and the way Fort Pillow actually went follows thus: (lol) Forrest invested the fort, and called on the Union commander to surrender immediately, or else he could not be held responsible for the consequences. The union commander asked for 1 hour to discuss this with his officers. Forrest saw steamboats coming up river and suspected that they carried yankee reinforcements, and so only gave the fort 20 minutes to decide. The yankee chose to fight, and so Forrest attacked and captured the fort within minutes. Little known or recognized in history is that Forrest actually was doing his very best to stop any "massacre" that was ensuing. The "massacre" was really just rebels chasing yankee soldiers who were trying to escape down to the docks behind the fort. There are, although, several accounts of confederates shooting negroes who were in the act of surrendering. But the main point is that Forrest did everything in his power to immediately end the fighting once the fort had been captured. It doesn't sound like something Forrest would do, but it's fact. | |
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DCCCfC aka General Lee Cavalry Trooper
Number of posts : 356 Age : 97 Localisation : The Island of Christian Theocracy Registration date : 2006-10-10
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:03 pm | |
| Id love to have that info. Whered you get it? | |
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Iron Brigade General President
Number of posts : 1811 Age : 35 Localisation : Playing robber with the nerdy cops Registration date : 2006-10-03
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:56 am | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. Try to shift blame from the rebs. Actually, that is quiet intresting. But, I don't see Forrest as the type of guy to stop any bloodletting. | |
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General Stuart Iron Brigade
Number of posts : 1465 Age : 34 Localisation : central California Registration date : 2006-10-23
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:05 pm | |
| It's a fact. Anyway, I got the info from Shelby Foote's civil war series, vol. II. I highly reccomend those books. If IBG had read them all, he wouldn't be so misguided lol. | |
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Iron Brigade General President
Number of posts : 1811 Age : 35 Localisation : Playing robber with the nerdy cops Registration date : 2006-10-03
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:07 pm | |
| Forrest was just another southern fanatic. lol. But, on a more serious note, he starts the KKK and kills black unmericfully, wemon, children. | |
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General Stuart Iron Brigade
Number of posts : 1465 Age : 34 Localisation : central California Registration date : 2006-10-23
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:18 pm | |
| *tisk tisk, poor, senseless, uninformed, misguided boy* dude, sorry to say this and I know it comes as a shock, but the KKK started out as a good thing, just like all vigalantees. I have never seen documented proof that the KKK did anything wrong in the days of its founding (and I mean the real KKK, not criminals who held up banks in its name). And I've never heard that Forrest ever massacred unarmed citizens. And some "fanatic" he was, he gave up and went home in Nov. of '64 I think, because he knew the war was over, especially in the west. Real fanatic, yep. | |
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DCCCfC aka General Lee Cavalry Trooper
Number of posts : 356 Age : 97 Localisation : The Island of Christian Theocracy Registration date : 2006-10-10
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:21 pm | |
| Lol I second Jebs opinion that the kkk started out good. | |
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Civility_C General-in-Chief
Number of posts : 1300 Age : 32 Registration date : 2006-10-05
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:31 pm | |
| Yeah me too. I've tried to tell people that and they don't believe me | |
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Iron Brigade General President
Number of posts : 1811 Age : 35 Localisation : Playing robber with the nerdy cops Registration date : 2006-10-03
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:47 pm | |
| I'm not saying that it didn't start out with noble intentions. What I'm saying is it almost immediatly turned to kililng and burning. | |
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Civility_C General-in-Chief
Number of posts : 1300 Age : 32 Registration date : 2006-10-05
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:06 pm | |
| hahaha I did delete your last post! | |
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DCCCfC aka General Lee Cavalry Trooper
Number of posts : 356 Age : 97 Localisation : The Island of Christian Theocracy Registration date : 2006-10-10
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:05 pm | |
| But his post wasnt racist! | |
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Civility_C General-in-Chief
Number of posts : 1300 Age : 32 Registration date : 2006-10-05
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:26 pm | |
| I know but do you want to deal with the KKK? | |
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Iron Brigade General President
Number of posts : 1811 Age : 35 Localisation : Playing robber with the nerdy cops Registration date : 2006-10-03
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:41 pm | |
| Who's in the what now? What exactly are you talking about? | |
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General Stuart Iron Brigade
Number of posts : 1465 Age : 34 Localisation : central California Registration date : 2006-10-23
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General Stuart Iron Brigade
Number of posts : 1465 Age : 34 Localisation : central California Registration date : 2006-10-23
| Subject: Re: Fort Pillow Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:36 pm | |
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