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PostSubject: Quotes   Quotes EmptyThu Nov 02, 2006 4:04 pm

These are just some quotes Ive collected and they are worth reading!


Quotes of Lincoln



Asked Of Abraham Lincoln...

"Why not let the South go in
peace?"


Response Of Abraham Lincoln...

"I can't let them go. Who would pay
for the government?"


“My paramount objective in this struggle is to save the
Union, and is not to either save or destroy slavery. If I could save the Union
without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all
the slaves I would do it; and if I could do it by freeing some of the slaves
and leaving others alone I would also do that." - Lincoln to Horace
Greeley of the NY Tribune
August 22, 1862.


"I will say, then,
that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the
social and political equality of the white and black races [applause]: that I
am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor
of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I
will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the
white and black races which I believe will for ever forbid the two races living
together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot
so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior
and inferior, and I, as much as any other man, am in favor of having the
superior position assigned to the white race." -- Reply by Abraham Lincoln

"Any people
anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and
shake off the existing government and form a new one that suits them better.
This is a most valuable, a most sacred right, which we hope and believe is to
liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole
people of an existing government, may choose to exercise it. Any portion of
such people that can, may revolutionize, and make their own, of so much
territory as they inhabit." -- Abraham Lincoln

"I have no purpose, directly or
indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery." – Abraham
Lincoln

"I am a little uneasy about the abolishment of slavery
in this District (of Columbia)." - Abraham Lincoln

Abraham Lincoln said, "But for
your race there could not be war... It is better for us both, therefore, to be
separated".

"What I would most desire would
be the separation of the white and black races." Abraham Lincoln

"The principle
[of the Proclamation] is not that a human being cannot justly own another, but
that he cannot own him unless he is loyal to the United States
government."-Abraham Lincoln





Lee Quotes


“Governor, if I had foreseen the use those people designed
to make of their victory, there would have been no surrender at Appomattox
Courthouse; no, sir, not by me. Had I foreseen these results of subjugation, I
would have preferred to die at Appomattox with my brave men, my sword in this
right hand.” General Robert Edward Lee"



General Lee said to General Grant: "Grant, you didn't whip
me, you just overpowered me, I surrender this day 8,000 men; I do not surrender
them to you, I surrender on conditions; it shall not go down in history I
surrendered the Northern Confederate Army of Virginia to you. It shall go down
in history I surrendered on conditions; you have ten men to my one; my men,
too, are barefooted and hungry. If Joseph E. Johnston could have gotten to me
three days ago I would have cut my way through and gone back into the mountains
of North Carolina and would have given you a happy time."

"I
would have never surrendered the army if I had known how the South would have
been treated." -- General Robert E. Lee


"We could have pursued no other course without dishonor. And sad as
the results have been, if it had all to be done again, we should be compelled
to act in precisely the same manner."
--- Robert E. Lee

"When you eliminate the black Confederate soldier, you've eliminated
the history of the South." quoted from General Robert E. Lee, in 1864.

"Our country demands all
our strength, all our energies. To resist the powerful combination now forming
against us will require every man at his place. If victorious, we will have
everything to hope for in the future. If defeated, nothing will be left for us
to live for."
--- Robert E.
Lee




Other Confederate Generals’ quotes

"Surrender means that the history of
this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy; that our youth will be
trained by Northern school teachers; will learn from Northern school books
their version of the War; will be impressed by all the influences of history
and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors, and our maimed veterans
as fit subjects for derision." -- General Pat Cleburne


"I am with the South in life or in death, in victory or in defeat......
I believe the North is about to wage a brutal and unholy war on a people who
have done them no wrong, in violation of the Constitution and the fundamental
principles of government. They no longer acknowledge that all government
derives its validity from the consent of the governed. They are about to invade
our peaceful homes, destroy our property, and inaugurate a servile
insurrection, murder our men and dishonor our women. We propose no invasion of
the North, no attack on them, and only ask to be left alone."

~~Major General Patrick Cleburne C.S.A.

"You have no right to ask,
or expect that she will at once profess unbounded love to that Union from which
for four years she tried to escape at the cost of her best blood and all her
treasure. Nor can you believe her to be so unutterably hypocritical, so base,
as to declare that the flag of the Union has already surpassed in her heart the
place which has so long been sacred to the 'Southern Cross.' "


--- General Wade Hampton


General Jubal
Early--
The Army of Northern Virginia was never
defeated. It merely wore itself out whipping the enemy.




General Wade
Hampton--
If we were wrong in our contest, then the
Declaration of Independence of 1776 was a grave mistake and the revolution to
which it led was a crime. If Washington was a patriot; Lee cannot have
been a rebel.


General J E B Stuart-- I would rather be a private in
Virginia's army than a general in any army that was going to coerce her.




Yankee Generals’ Quotes

"There is a class of people (in the
South), men, women and children, who must be killed or banished before you can
hope for peace and order." -- General William T. Sherman


"Next year their lands will be taken,
for in war we can take them, and rightfully too, and another year they may beg
in vain for their lives. A people who will persevere in war beyond a certain
limit ought to know the consequences. Many many people, with less pertinacity
than the South, have been wiped out of national existence. To those who submit
to the rightful law and authority, all gentleness and forbearance; but to the
petulant and persistent secessionist, why, death is mercy, and the quicker he
or she is disposed of the better." -- General William T. Sherman


"I begin to regard the death and
mangling of a couple of thousand men as a small affair, a kind of morning
dash." -- General William T. Sherman


"If I thought this war
was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the
other side." --- General Ulysses S. Grant


Quotes proving
Black Confederates


One
black man said to a commanding General of the State Militia, "our fathers
were brought here as slaves because they were captured in war, and in hand to
hand fights, too. Pardon me, General, but the only cowardly blood we have got
in our veins is the white blood. "

Forrest said of the black men who served with him:

...these boys stayed with me...and better Confederates did not live.


Black Confederate Nim Wilkes once
said:



“I was in every battle General
Forrest fought after leaving Columbia...I was mustered out at Gainesville”



A number of free
blacks sent a letter to the editor of the Daily Delta expressing their support
for their native state. The letter stated :


... the free men of colored population (native)...love
their home, their property, their own slaves, and they are dearly attached to
their native land, and they recognize no other country than Louisiana, and care
for no other than Louisiana, and they are ready to shed their blood for her
defense. They have no sympathy for Abolitionism; no love for the North, but
they have plently for Louisiana; and let the hour come, and they will be worthy
sons of Louisiana. They will fight for her in 1861 as they fought in 1814 -
15....

"There are at present many Coloured men
in the Confederate Army doing duty not only as cooks, servants and labourers,
but real soldiers, having muskets on their shoulders, and bullets in their
pockets." -- Frederick Douglas



Other Quotes

"But, when a long train of abuses and
usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce
them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw
off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security."
-- Declaration Of Independence


"The United States shall guarantee to
every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect
each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the
Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic
Violence." -- Article 4 - Section 4 : United States Constitution"


All we ask is to be left alone." --
President Jefferson Davis, CSA


"A
question settled by violence, or in disregard of law, must remain unsettled
forever." -- President Jefferson Davis


"Woe to them that devise iniquity, and
work evil upon their beds! When the morning is light, they practice it, because
it is in the power of their hand. And they covet fields, and take them by
violence; and houses, and take them away: so they oppress a man and his house,
even a man and his heritage" -- Micah 2:2


"Remove not the ancient landmark, which
thy forefathers have set." -- Proverbs 22:28


“Swords are mighty but Principles laugh at Swords.
Overwhelming force may crush Truth to the earth, but crushed or not Truth is
still the Truth.” John S. Tilly


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PostSubject: Re: Quotes   Quotes EmptyThu Nov 02, 2006 4:06 pm

where did you get all those quotes?Question
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PostSubject: Re: Quotes   Quotes EmptyThu Nov 02, 2006 4:07 pm

Collected
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PostSubject: Re: Quotes   Quotes EmptyThu Nov 02, 2006 4:08 pm

cool, how long did it take you to collect them all?
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PostSubject: Re: Quotes   Quotes EmptyThu Nov 02, 2006 4:12 pm

Afew days and adding at random times
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PostSubject: Re: Quotes   Quotes EmptyThu Nov 02, 2006 4:19 pm

sweet, I havent had a chance to read them all but I've read some of them and they are pretty cool.
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PostSubject: Re: Quotes   Quotes EmptyThu Nov 02, 2006 4:49 pm

I read them all. Awesome. Thank you so much, General Lee, for posting those. I think I might print them and frame them on my wall lol (seriousely). It really rescribes the true nature of the conflict. Really, what does a yankee have to say after reading that?
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PostSubject: Re: Quotes   Quotes EmptyThu Nov 02, 2006 5:27 pm

Thanks General Lee! Those were awesome.
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PostSubject: Re: Quotes   Quotes EmptyThu Nov 02, 2006 7:16 pm

Your all welcome... And if you have any more to add please do!
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PostSubject: Re: Quotes   Quotes EmptyThu Nov 02, 2006 9:08 pm

The more I read...The more I realise how little I know of American History.
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PostSubject: Re: Quotes   Quotes EmptyThu Nov 02, 2006 9:18 pm

I know what you mean. But I don't think it's just that. I think that these quotes just show in such a blaring light what we don't hear; I can site the Gen. Patrick R. Claibourne quote for this one, that the history of events will be written by the victors. And was Lincoln racist or what? You would think he's the president of the KKK, not the author of emancipation. (Anybody read "The Bell Curve"?) And some union man Grant was lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Quotes   Quotes EmptyThu Nov 02, 2006 9:29 pm

There is truth in these quotes and I am glad that I've seen them. I've read a few of them before.
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PostSubject: Re: Quotes   Quotes EmptySat Nov 04, 2006 9:32 pm

when I get some quotes that are pretty good, I'll post them here too.
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PostSubject: Re: Quotes   Quotes EmptySat Nov 04, 2006 9:52 pm

I've read quite a few of these before. I think we have all known the whole time that freeing the slaves was not Pres. Lincoln's attempt. But to keep the nation as a whole. But I am glad that the slaves did get to be freed.
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PostSubject: Re: Quotes   Quotes EmptySun Nov 05, 2006 10:54 am

DCCCfC aka General Lee wrote:
General Jubal Early-- The Army of Northern Virginia was never defeated. It merely wore itself out whipping the enemy.

I love it.
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PostSubject: Re: Quotes   Quotes EmptySun Nov 05, 2006 3:13 pm

Me too it is one of my absolute favorites!
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PostSubject: Re: Quotes   Quotes EmptySun Nov 05, 2006 4:16 pm

Remarks on the ones about the blacks serving the rebs. I already knew they were serving the South. At Saylor's Creek, quiet a few Union troopers were suprised when they captured blacks from several Confed regiments.
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PostSubject: Re: Quotes   Quotes EmptyMon Nov 06, 2006 4:26 pm

Of course they were. That's when they discovered that everything the Lincoln adminastration had been telling them was a lie. Evil or Very Mad
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