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Do you think some Mythical creatures do exist?
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyMon Nov 20, 2006 3:58 pm

I heard they have a museum going up soon in the US:afro:
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyMon Nov 20, 2006 4:00 pm

Yeah they do. It should be cool!
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyMon Nov 20, 2006 4:03 pm

Do you happen to know when it is going up??
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyMon Nov 20, 2006 4:04 pm

Have no idea. bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyMon Nov 20, 2006 4:06 pm

Darn.
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyTue Nov 21, 2006 9:14 am

of couse dinosuars exsest today.

what do you think sharks, alligaters, crocidiles, and lizards are, they just arn't as big as their ansesters. study
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyTue Nov 21, 2006 9:25 am

you forgot to mention the chicken (who knew that tyrannosaurus rexes
would taste sooo good)
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyTue Nov 21, 2006 9:40 am

thanks I new I was forgeting something. study
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyTue Nov 21, 2006 9:42 am

of course, that means we just proved evolution right there
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyTue Nov 21, 2006 9:43 am

and that matters why?study
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyTue Nov 21, 2006 11:20 am

Because evolution isn't real and that doesn't prove anything.. wait.. maybe it is real. I mean Coby is a monkey Laughing bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyTue Nov 21, 2006 12:18 pm

There is no doubt that evolution is real, bacteria evolve when you take
preventative measures against them. Which brings me to another point,
only use medecine for thereputic reasons, rather then preventative (both
for humans and animals)
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyTue Nov 21, 2006 12:19 pm

Ha,Ha,Ha, very funny. study
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyTue Nov 21, 2006 2:55 pm

I would have to disagree with you there Legra. Evolution is mearly a THEORY. It has yet to be positivly proven.
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyTue Nov 21, 2006 3:01 pm

True you can't prove that evolution is true. study
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyTue Nov 21, 2006 6:25 pm

General_LeGraSherman wrote:
There is no doubt that evolution is real, bacteria evolve when you take
preventative measures against them. Which brings me to another point,
only use medecine for thereputic reasons, rather then preventative (both
for humans and animals)
Actually Legra, Civ is right, there is nothing but supposisiton that supports the evolutionary theory. And the sad attempts to prove it have failed miserably. And as for your bacteria, that is not evolving, that is adapting. Ever wonder why you can never find a half fish half something else fossil? Darwin himself stated that there were problems with his theory. I could say more but i need to refresh my memory first.
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyWed Nov 22, 2006 11:20 am

Actually, a specy adaptating and changing to its environment is actually evolution, from what I know. However, if this is the case, this mere fact hasn't been widespread (you know the evolutionist will jump on every chance they can get to prove it). And to the bacteria example, it isn't evolution, bonehead, it is natural selection. Natural selection is a beautiful observation, one that has been proven. However, natural selection does not equal evolution. Ever heard of the black moths and white moths in England? If you haven't let me know, and I will inform you about them. And if you disagree with me about the fact that it is natural selection, let me know - so I can crush you! Mwuhahahahahahhaha (jk)

And it is true that evolution cannot be proven - nor can Christianity. We cannot prove that there is God, nor can they prove that evolution is correct.
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyWed Nov 22, 2006 11:23 am

And mythical creatures are real - as long as someone is thinking about them. If someone is thinking about them they exist right. You might say it is only in their imagination - wrong. There are neurons that are firing in your brain which enable you to think of these mythical creatures. So, giving the fact that these neurons are firing, mythical creatures DO exist, merely by your thought of them. But the instant that you stop thinking about them they become nonexistant.
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyWed Nov 22, 2006 11:32 am

While you cannot prove there is a God, you cannot prove there isn't one either. I personally don't have enough faith to be an Atheist or and Evolutionist. For those of you who believe in something that has yet to be proven in the slightest bit, I applaud you.
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyWed Nov 22, 2006 3:02 pm

enigma7patriot wrote:
Actually, a specy adaptating and changing to its environment is actually evolution, from what I know. However, if this is the case, this mere fact hasn't been widespread (you know the evolutionist will jump on every chance they can get to prove it). And to the bacteria example, it isn't evolution, bonehead, it is natural selection. Natural selection is a beautiful observation, one that has been proven. However, natural selection does not equal evolution. Ever heard of the black moths and white moths in England? If you haven't let me know, and I will inform you about them. And if you disagree with me about the fact that it is natural selection, let me know - so I can crush you! Mwuhahahahahahhaha (jk)

And it is true that evolution cannot be proven - nor can Christianity. We cannot prove that there is God, nor can they prove that evolution is correct.
I have enigma, in fact the evolution vs creation argument is one of my favorite topics. Although, I do disagree with you on one thing. And civ stated it too, which I understand both of your responces and your reasons for posting them. There is proof of an existance( Namely God) beyond our own everywhere we look. We see it in science, biology, every little thing that exists, all gives the same testimony. It is impossible for something like a DNA strain to simply form out of nothing(if you have ever studied the DNA sequence more then just in school then you know what I am talking about), scientists have tried to prove evolution by that process countless times(all of which failed). Heck, they cant even create a succesfull clone.
And, they have also tried to prove evolution by saying that we came from monkeys. This is not only farfeched, it is downright ridiculous. Maybe it wasnt when they first came up with the idea of it, but every study,test, and experimant(performed by both evolutionists and creatinonists) has only proved the opposite,(we didnt come from monkeys). Oh, and might i mention that even if it was true, it would take a LOT longer then 20 billion years for a "natural" process to create the oxygen, the stars, the planets, the bioforms, and not to mention US. All of the facts evolutionists have come up with to prove this are so ignorant(only if you know enough about what they belivee), that it is almost funny. they contridict themselves on almost every occasion. Trying to prove themselves b saying that dinosaurs didnt exsist at the same time a man. BAH. Not only is there the footprints in the rock,(I'm sure you've heard of this), but there is enough evidence to say without a doubt that species of dinosaurs lived less then 500 years ago. And even that in remote jungles, deserts, and the depths of the ocean that some are still alive today.

And as far as proving that creation IS true,and that there IS a God, that is not as difficult as many may think. All you have to do is disprove evolution, and as I have stated , that is happening so quickly that it should be dismantled by the time we hit 2020.
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyWed Nov 22, 2006 9:16 pm

Wow,Oppie...Wow.That was right on.
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyWed Nov 22, 2006 9:33 pm

Thank's Civ, I'm glad you enjoyed it. But I'm sure you already knew most of what I said Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyWed Nov 22, 2006 10:08 pm

And I'm also sure that Enigma enjoyed it.

Right Enigma?afro
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyWed Nov 22, 2006 10:53 pm

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enigma7patriot wrote:
Actually, a specy adaptating and changing to its environment is actually evolution, from what I know. However, if this is the case, this mere fact hasn't been widespread (you know the evolutionist will jump on every chance they can get to prove it). And to the bacteria example, it isn't evolution, bonehead, it is natural selection. Natural selection is a beautiful observation, one that has been proven. However, natural selection does not equal evolution. Ever heard of the black moths and white moths in England? If you haven't let me know, and I will inform you about them. And if you disagree with me about the fact that it is natural selection, let me know - so I can crush you! Mwuhahahahahahhaha (jk)

And it is true that evolution cannot be proven - nor can Christianity. We cannot prove that there is God, nor can they prove that evolution is correct.
I have enigma, in fact the evolution vs creation argument is one of my favorite topics. Although, I do disagree with you on one thing. And civ stated it too, which I understand both of your responces and your reasons for posting them. There is proof of an existance( Namely God) beyond our own everywhere we look. We see it in science, biology, every little thing that exists, all gives the same testimony. It is impossible for something like a DNA strain to simply form out of nothing(if you have ever studied the DNA sequence more then just in school then you know what I am talking about), scientists have tried to prove evolution by that process countless times(all of which failed). Heck, they cant even create a succesfull clone.
And, they have also tried to prove evolution by saying that we came from monkeys. This is not only farfeched, it is downright ridiculous. Maybe it wasnt when they first came up with the idea of it, but every study,test, and experimant(performed by both evolutionists and creatinonists) has only proved the opposite,(we didnt come from monkeys). Oh, and might i mention that even if it was true, it would take a LOT longer then 20 billion years for a "natural" process to create the oxygen, the stars, the planets, the bioforms, and not to mention US. All of the facts evolutionists have come up with to prove this are so ignorant(only if you know enough about what they belivee), that it is almost funny. they contridict themselves on almost every occasion. Trying to prove themselves b saying that dinosaurs didnt exsist at the same time a man. BAH. Not only is there the footprints in the rock,(I'm sure you've heard of this), but there is enough evidence to say without a doubt that species of dinosaurs lived less then 500 years ago. And even that in remote jungles, deserts, and the depths of the ocean that some are still alive today.

And as far as proving that creation IS true,and that there IS a God, that is not as difficult as many may think. All you have to do is disprove evolution, and as I have stated , that is happening so quickly that it should be dismantled by the time we hit 2020.
afro
Do you think that I am an evolutionist? Ha, Oppie, I laugh at this *laughs*.
Eh hem, carrying on.
Why you bring up all this I don't know (after all, I am supposing we are all christians). However, to your main point - we cannot prove that God exists nor can we disprove evolution. If we could don't you think that it would've already occurred? Eh Pacha? And to your facts about creating life from what there was in the universe - they have come up with a premordial (or however you spell it) soup and have successfully in the lab created microorganisms from the raw elements.
And, yes I agree with you on the fact that there may be startling evidence that shows that evolution is doubtful, but none whatsoever that there is a God. People are now looking to intelligent design, but they aren't necessarily saying anything about a God...ever heard of the alien theory? Which comes to my point - you can't prove that God exists scientifically. Perhaps I didn't clarify this (and I apologize). You can't prove God exists becuase you can't recreate God in a lab. Stray from this recreation, and it is tough to prove anything. People believe what they can touch (i.e. tangible, which is why idol worship was so big). You get into personal experience and such and you stray from a proof that applies to everyone. This is where faith comes in. That is what you and I have as proof that God exists. Trying to prove it to the masses, um ain't gonna happen. You and I have proof for ourselves based on what we have seen and experienced. The definition of prove - to establish the truth or genuineness of, as by evidence or argument: to prove one's claim. You cannot demonstrate God without getting into beliefs.

Oh and by the bye, natural selection is very true. However, it is not evolution. Evolution is speciazation.
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PostSubject: Re: Mythical creatures   Mythical creatures - Page 3 EmptyWed Nov 22, 2006 11:35 pm

"they have come up with a premordial (or however you spell it) soup and have successfully in the lab created microorganisms from the raw elements. "

Umm, I dont know where you came up with this info, but I have to point out that you are wrong. Anything that you can produce from chemicals alone will not have all of the neccesary attributes of life. And anyone who claims to have done more is lying.
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